LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008

Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:34 am

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(it makes me wonder why some people are always willing to forgive Dick's actions in the house but are so very harsh with others... yes, I know Dick was up front about it, but he still did and said vile things and continues this game in real life

ED is not "forgiven" in my book. But he can be added to a long list of others who are not someone I would "break bread" with.

For me the worse final 2 was Dick and Daniele. Its not a popular opinion, but for me, I felt they had an unfair "advantage" in the game ( America's votes, blood related, first week immunity, Diary Room stuff, Daniele being underage, comps seemed to highlight Dicks "rock n roll" persona, which had nothing to do with Alice in Wonderland....etc)

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:35 am

ebowers wrote:

FLGAL, over the 9 seasons of BB we all have put many hg's up on pedastals and all hg's do things in the name of the game that they are not proud of later. Just because Natalie lied on a reality show where she was trying to win a lot of $$ doesn't make her a bad person. Big deal... she lied about something that happened on a reality show, they all do.

Ahh, but what she lied about had nothing to do with game play or strategy, she lied about oral sex. Why do you think she denied it, maybe because she's afraid the other house guests would think less of her after bringing up God so much? Natalie can live how she wants to on or off the show, however, she kept saying God was going to punish this person for saying something or God would protect her because of others actions, but everyone did/said bad things in the house including her. She was being a hypocrite that's why I dislike her, and she's quite the "airhead".

Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:56 am

FLGAL wrote:

How would you rate the top three worst BB final two winners?

Here's my order:

1.Maggie & Ivette
2.Ryan & Adam
3.Allison & Jun

Eta. My number 4 would be Erika & Boogie.

Mine would be:
1. Erica & Boogie
2. Maggie & Ivette
3. Ryan & Adam

I guess my favourite final two was way back in season 1. - Eddie and Josh

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NancyB (admin) wrote:

OliveJuice wrote:

What would you have preferred her to do? Admit it to everyone, a group of people where half strongly disliked her and 2 already crossed the line by throwing shit at her?? I'm sure she is embarrassed. She was used by a guy and she was stupid for doing it. Does that mean I should hang her? Look, the fact that she blew Matt 4 times doesn't take anything away from what I said above. I never said she was perfect, neither did she.

I still think she was the highlight of this season with her wonderful attitude and outlook on life, blowjobs and all. She drove me nuts several times watching, I don;t wish she had won. I just got a kick out of her many times. The moment Natalie referenced God or showed she had her personal bible, I knew she would be labeled and compared to Amber and Jameka, or just disliked because people are bothered by other's strong faith. She opened up this can of worms and CBS milked it for all it was worth.

Sharon had a strong faith, as does Janelle. It has nothing to do with her "strong" faith.
Please don't label posters or viewers as anti-religion because of our dislike of Natalie's perverse view of it.
I've often wondered if people who defend their faith the most vigorously are actually insecure in it and have secret doubts. Kind of like the old saw that gay bashers are self-loathing closet gays.

I agree. To me religion, whatever you believe in, is what guides you in life...in how to compose yourself, in your actions in this world. Natalie twisted it to fit whatever situation she found herself in and said some pretty outrageous and annoying comments about Christianity. I do see the sweet person deep down in Natalie that some of you see, but i also see that judgmental hypocrite as well. In the game of Big Brother, i couldn't stand her.

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FLGAL wrote:

How would you rate the top three worst BB final two winners?

Here's my order:

1.Maggie & Ivette
2.Ryan & Adam
3.Allison & Jun

Eta. My number 4 would be Erika & Boogie.

Based on basic human decency (#1 ben the worst):

1) Ryan and Adam
2) Dick and Daniele (Dick is worse than either Ryan or Adam; Daniele better so that is how it balances out)
3) Allison and Jun

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ebowers wrote:

FLGAL, over the 9 seasons of BB we all have put many hg's up on pedastals and all hg's do things in the name of the game that they are not proud of later. Just because Natalie lied on a reality show where she was trying to win a lot of $$ doesn't make her a bad person. Big deal... she lied about something that happened on a reality show, they all do. And yes, I agree that once she decided to use religion as her game play, the producers went with it. Every year someone tries it. I wonder if anyone will ever win using this as their game play.

Lying about the blow jobs was stupid because they are on tape and now in Youtube forever. It made her look worse and ultimately will get Natalie more negative attention than Chelsia who also had sex in the house. (Be honest about the gossip and you disarm the gossipers.) But you are right that lying about the BJ's does not make Natalie a bad person. Natalie's judgmental attitude toward others is what makes me dislike her and never consider her a role model. Self-righteousness and labeling others as evil is the same attitude that leads to bigotry, hatred and religious wars ultimately.

And I agree with Nancy ... I have no objection to religious people in the house. Some of my favorite houseguests through the seasons were quite religious including Jason (BB3), Kaysar (BB6,7), Janelle (BB6,7), and Sharon (BB9). However the difference between this group and the self-righteous religious (the twins, Jameka, Amber, and Natalie) are that the self-righteous use their religion as a weapon against others. They have the arrogance and audacity to act as if God favors them over all others.

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Worst fianl 2 ever Maggie and Ivette, Jun and Allison, and Dick and Daniele (it makes me wonder why some people are always willing to forgive Dick's actions in the house but are so very harsh with others... yes, I know Dick was up front about it, but he still did and said vile things and continues this game in real life)

Not sure who these "some people" are. Frankly, I find Dick a disgusting pig and he proved it again the other night at the chat with Janelle.

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:23 am

Cousin_Jake wrote:

Mine would be:
1. Erica & Boogie
2. Maggie & Ivette
3. Ryan & Adam

I guess my favourite final two was way back in season 1. - Eddie and Josh

I feel the same as you do, Jessie except I would tie Maggie/Ivette and Ryan/Adam for second place. Very Happy

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:35 am

Worse F2 for me:

1. Maggie/Ivette
2. Boogie/Erica
3. Dani/Dick
4. Adam/Ryan

Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:53 am

Maggie/Ivette (Ivette was stupid for not throwing to Janelle, she made a 450,000. mistake.

Dick/Daniele (All I can say is UGH!)

Boogie/Erika (Nothing sadder than watching her climb all over that pig. She can put whatever spin she wants on it now, we were watching)

Adam/Ryan (Pigs, but very apropos for this season)

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:15 am

What bothered me with Natalie was that it was OK for her to "sin" because she was going to be "forgiven" as long as she has faith and reads the Bible. To me (and this is my opinion) It is NOT OK to sin or wish bad on someone else and think it's OK because you will be forgiven in the end.

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Worst F2

Maggie/Ivette
Allison/Jun
Boogie/Erica

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 3:35 pm

Worst F2:
Cowboy and Drew

Best F2:
Dick and Dani
I jumped and ran around my house screaming when Dick won the final HOH

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Your house must have looked like my house, thats what we did here too. lol!

then we danced a bit get down

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I threw up when Dick won.

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:40 pm

Diva wrote:

I threw up when Dick won.

roflol...I felt the same way! lol!

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Are they showing anything on the feeds right now?

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:42 pm

NO.

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:43 pm

I'll keep mine up and let you know if they do.

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:44 pm

I have a black screen with music.

Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:49 pm

Do you think we have to wait until east coast sees it? My music is starting to stop like it does when the the feeds come back on, then starts again.

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:07 pm

Did anyone elses music stop on realplayer?

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:24 pm

Yes mine did

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:25 pm

Thanks.

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Subject: Re: LF Discussion Friday April 25, 2008 Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:25 pm

Mine too. Sad I am sitting here looking at a black screen waiting for it to pop on! LOL

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